Re: [needs proofread & IT translation] Refund4Freedom news item

Francesca Indorato <[email protected]> Tue, 27 May 2025 10:13:11 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.org.fsf.europe.translators
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hey Marta,

Ho fatto il proofreading e ho corretto un paio di cose qui e la', non 
necessariamente sbagliate, ma a mio avviso suonavano male.

Let me know if it works now in your opinion.

Best regards,
Francesca

On 5/27/25 09:08, Marta Andreoli wrote:
> Ciao Gabri,
> 
> grazie del feedback, molto utile.
> 
> I attach the revised translation of the postcard which includes your 
> suggestions 🙂
> 
> I left my comments below everyone is encouraged to continue the 
> conversation - @Dario se hai piacere a dare feedback anche tu.
> 
> I'd like to wrap it up by _tomorrow morning (Wednesday 9am) latest_.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Marta
> 
> 
> Il 26/05/25 19:47, Gabriele Ponzo ha scritto:
>> "Dispositivi come laptop e smartphone": I would better write 
>> "Dispositivi come PC portatili e smartphone" or even better 
>> "Dispositivi come PC (portatili o meno) e smartphone" which in english 
>> would be "Devices like PCs or laptops and smartphones"
> 
> 
> Marta: I agree would be better to use PC instead of Laptop
> 
> here the difference among the 2
> 
> PC a general-purpose computer equipped with a microprocessor and 
> designed to run especially commercial software (such as a word processor 
> or Internet browser) for an individual user by Merriam-Webster dictionary
> 
> Laptop a portable microcomputer having its main components (such as 
> processor, keyboard, and display screen) integrated into a single unit 
> capable of battery-powered operation by Merriam-Webster dictionary
> 
> As you can see laptop is much more specific.
> 
> 
>>
>> Moreover I'd probably add an example because not everyone knows what a 
>> software and an operating system is...
>> Something like: "You wouldn't accept a car with a guest inside, right?".
> 
> 
> this is a very good point, but the space for examples in this postcard 
> is very limited - to consider for the future.
> 
> 
>>
>> Finally, "start up the pc and take pictures", correctly translated in 
>> "Avvia il PC e scatta delle foto" doesn't describe what to take 
>> pictures of.
>> I'd better write "start up the pc and take pictures or a video to 
>> document your refusal of the proposed End User License Agreement", 
>> translated in "Avvia il PC e scatta delle foto o fai dei video per 
>> documentare il tuo rifiuto della licenza proposta (End User License 
>> Agreement)".
> 
> 
> what about this? "Take a Picture or Video of the Refund Clause" / "Fai 
> una foto o un video della clausola di rimborso che ti appare sullo schermo"
> 
> 
>>
>> My 2 cents ;)
>> Have a good evening dearests.
>> ---
>> Gabriele Ponzo
>>
>>
>> Il giorno lun 26 mag 2025 alle ore 18:15 Marta Andreoli 
>> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     attached the text of the postcard translated in italian for you to
>>     proofread.
>>
>>     Please do let me know if you have comments or make them in the file
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Marta
>>
>>
>>     Il 26/05/25 13:03, Dario Presutti ha scritto:
>>     > Hi all,
>>     >
>>     > On 26.05.25 12:17, Ana Galan wrote:
>>     >
>>     >> The IT translation is also ready for proofread:
>>     >> https://webpreview.fsfe.org/cgi/fsfe.pl?pad=1464
>>     > Sorry, there was a misunderstanding between And and me. This is
>>     just
>>     > the automatic translation. I will follow-up on this list again
>>     with a
>>     > ready to be proofread version by EOB today.
>>     >
>>     > Best,
>>     > Dario
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> Dear all,
>>     >>
>>     >> due to some issues with the webpreview, the English version is now
>>     >> here: https://webpreview.fsfe.org/cgi/fsfe.pl?pad=1465
>>     >>
>>     >> We will need to add an extra paragraph so I will send you another
>>     >> mail later today with the xhtml update. That pad will also be
>>     updated
>>     >> later with the new paragraph
>>     >>
>>     >> (I just wanted to make sure you are not currently looking for
>>     it and
>>     >> you cannot find it)
>>     >>
>>     >> The IT translation is also ready for proofread:
>>     >> https://webpreview.fsfe.org/cgi/fsfe.pl?pad=1464
>>     >>
>>     >> Best,
>>     >>
>>     >> Ana
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> On 5/23/25 09:46, Ana Galan wrote:
>>     >>> Dear all,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> next week  (Thursday) we have the kick-off event of the
>>     initiative
>>     >>> Refund4Freedom and therefore, we wrote a news item about it.
>>     I am
>>     >>> kindly asking for your help with English proofread and, as it
>>     is an
>>     >>> IT initiative, an IT translation.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> It would be great to have it done by next Tuesday evening.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> As usual, you can find the xhtml file attached and the English
>>     >>> version in the webpreview:
>>     >>> https://webpreview.fsfe.org/cgi/fsfe.pl?pad=1463
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Thanks a lot and have a great weekend,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Ana
>>     >>
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