Re: [needs translation] [DE / FR / IT / NL] Communication supporters

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FWIW, I have proofread these five new strings of English text.  They are
fine.

I do not, however, recall proofreading all the texts in the FSFE Community
Database.  Rather, I have been told that the other strings there are not
worth proofreading:

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Reinhard M=C3=BCller <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 1:01=E2=80=AFPM
Subject: Re: [Translators] fsfe-cd ready for translation updates
To: Richard L. Schmeidler <[email protected]>


Dear Richard,

Am 02.04.26 um 18:44 schrieb Richard L. Schmeidler:
> I gather that the English message texts for the FSFE Community Database
> have been modified.  I do not know how to find them to look at them.
> Have the English texts been proofread?  Would you like me to proofread
them?

thank you for your offer. I don't think it makes much sense to proofread
these texts, since they are distributed all across the program code and
mostly consist of single words or very short phrases, because they are
mostly labels of some controls of the user interface.

Thanks,
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Reinhard M=C3=BCller - Finance Team
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.
Revaler Stra=C3=9Fe 19, 10245 Berlin, Germany.
Registered at Amtsgericht Hamburg, VR 17030

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I respectfully question this.  For example, both the second and third of
the new strings contain flagrantly split infinitives.  There is a
long-standing prejudice against split infinitives in English:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_infinitive , but that lengthy analysis
is largely devoted to defenses of the split infinitive.  The classic first
edition of Fowler's "Dictionary of Modern English Usage" (of which I sent a
softcover copy for use in the office) had a masterful treatment of the
subject on pages 558 through 561.

He describes categories of the English-speaking world:  those who neither
know nor care what a split infinitive is; those who do not know, but care
very much; those who do know what split infinitives are, and condemn them;
and those who know what split infinitives are, and approve them.  You might
think that these four cases exhaust the possibilities, but Fowler then adds
a fifth case, those who know what a split infinitive is and distinguish
between cases in which it is desirable and undesirable!  As he says, "the
author's opinion has perhaps been allowed to appear with indecent
plainness."  (This analysis, which does not appear in the excellent latest
edition of the book, is in my opinion a sufficient reason for having the
first edition at hand.  It is a century old, but still has a great many
useful and amusing things to say.  See, for additional examples, the first
two sentences of "Superiority" on page 585, and the note at the end.)

I conclude that the split infinitives in the second and third of these new
texts are desirable, but it is clear that there are those who will disagree
with me (Fowler's third category).  For this reason, I think that
proofreading the other texts in the FSFE Community Database might also be
desirable.  Where can I find them?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 5:41=E2=80=AFAM Sof=C3=ADa Aritz <[email protected]=
g> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We have added some strings to e-mails and pages in the FSFE Community
> Database (i.e. the service that takes care of accounts, sending
> mailings, etc):
>
> * "Finally, share your commitment to Software Freedom on social media:
> <link>"
>
> * "It is important to me that users are empowered to control technology.
> That is why I am a proud FSFE supporter. I encourage you to also become
> one."
>
> * "It is important to me that users are empowered to control technology.
> That is why I donated to the FSFE. I encourage you to also do so."
>
> * "Share your commitment to Software Freedom on social media."
>
> I would appreciate your thoughts and translations. I will take care of
> creating and submitting the PRs to the project.
>
> Best,
> Sof=C3=ADa Aritz
>
> --
> Sof=C3=ADa Aritz - Policy Consultant
> Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.
> Revaler Str. 19, 10245 Berlin, Germany
> Matrix: @sofiaritz:fsfe.org | Email: [email protected]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>FWIW, I have proofread these five ne=
w strings of English text.=C2=A0 They are fine.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></=
div><div></div><div>I do not, however, recall proofreading all the texts in=
 the FSFE Community Database.=C2=A0 Rather, I have been told that the other=
 strings there are not worth proofreading:</div><div><br></div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_send=
ername" dir=3D"auto">Reinhard M=C3=BCller</b> <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Th=
u, Apr 2, 2026 at 1:01=E2=80=AFPM<br>Subject: Re: [Translators] fsfe-cd rea=
dy for translation updates<br>To: Richard L. Schmeidler &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
<br></div><br><br>Dear Richard,<br>
<br>
Am 02.04.26 um 18:44 schrieb Richard L. Schmeidler:<br>
&gt; I gather that the English message texts for the FSFE Community Databas=
e <br>
&gt; have been modified.=C2=A0 I do not know how to find them to look at th=
em.=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; Have the English texts been proofread?=C2=A0 Would you like me to proo=
fread them?<br>
<br>
thank you for your offer. I don&#39;t think it makes much sense to proofrea=
d <br>
these texts, since they are distributed all across the program code and <br=
>
mostly consist of single words or very short phrases, because they are <br>
mostly labels of some controls of the user interface.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
-- <br>
Reinhard M=C3=BCller - Finance Team<br>
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.<br>
Revaler Stra=C3=9Fe 19, 10245 Berlin, Germany.<br>
Registered at Amtsgericht Hamburg, VR 17030<br>
<br>
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</div><div><=
br></div><div>I respectfully question this.=C2=A0 For example, both the sec=
ond and third of the new strings contain flagrantly split infinitives.=C2=
=A0 There is a long-standing prejudice against split infinitives in English=
:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_infinitive">https://=
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_infinitive</a> , but that lengthy analysis is l=
argely devoted to defenses of the split infinitive.=C2=A0 The classic first=
 edition of Fowler&#39;s &quot;Dictionary of Modern English Usage&quot; (of=
 which I sent a softcover copy for use in the office) had a masterful treat=
ment of the subject on pages 558 through 561.</div><div><br></div><div>He d=
escribes categories of the English-speaking world:=C2=A0 those who neither =
know nor care what a split infinitive is; those who do not know, but care v=
ery much; those who do know what split infinitives are, and condemn them; a=
nd those who know what split infinitives are, and approve them.=C2=A0 You m=
ight think that these four cases exhaust the possibilities, but Fowler then=
 adds a fifth case, those who know what a split infinitive is and distingui=
sh between cases in which it is desirable and undesirable!=C2=A0 As he says=
, &quot;the author&#39;s opinion has perhaps been allowed to appear with in=
decent plainness.&quot;=C2=A0 (This analysis, which does not appear in the =
excellent latest edition of the book, is in my opinion a sufficient reason =
for having the first edition at hand.=C2=A0 It is a century old, but still =
has a great many useful and amusing things to say.=C2=A0 See, for additiona=
l examples, the first two sentences of &quot;Superiority&quot; on page 585,=
 and the note at the end.)</div><div><br></div><div>I conclude that the spl=
it infinitives in the second and third of these new texts are desirable, bu=
t it is clear that there are those who will disagree with me (Fowler&#39;s =
third category).=C2=A0 For this reason, I think that proofreading the other=
 texts in the FSFE Community Database might also be desirable.=C2=A0 Where =
can I find them?<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_c=
ontainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 5:4=
1=E2=80=AFAM Sof=C3=ADa Aritz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">sof=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">Dear all,<br>
<br>
We have added some strings to e-mails and pages in the FSFE Community <br>
Database (i.e. the service that takes care of accounts, sending <br>
mailings, etc):<br>
<br>
* &quot;Finally, share your commitment to Software Freedom on social media:=
 <br>
&lt;link&gt;&quot;<br>
<br>
* &quot;It is important to me that users are empowered to control technolog=
y. <br>
That is why I am a proud FSFE supporter. I encourage you to also become <br=
>
one.&quot;<br>
<br>
* &quot;It is important to me that users are empowered to control technolog=
y. <br>
That is why I donated to the FSFE. I encourage you to also do so.&quot;<br>
<br>
* &quot;Share your commitment to Software Freedom on social media.&quot;<br=
>
<br>
I would appreciate your thoughts and translations. I will take care of <br>
creating and submitting the PRs to the project.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Sof=C3=ADa Aritz<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Sof=C3=ADa Aritz - Policy Consultant<br>
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.<br>
Revaler Str. 19, 10245 Berlin, Germany<br>
Matrix: @sofiaritz:<a href=3D"http://fsfe.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">fsfe.org</a> | Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>
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