RE: [OS:N:] Who should control which IP, was: Questionaire about ...

On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:24, Paul wrote:

> Marco said:
> "I think that you are too optimistic: 'the' reason why there is so much
> illegal copying is simply that people are immature. They think or know
> that just about *everything* is overpriced, not just music, at least
> because of advertising. They only take the files, not the BMW or
> the nice outfit because they would be caught. If an entry level car
> started to cost 100000 USD tomorrow people would act the right way:
> they would tell the dealer stuff it up your ass, I'll never going to
> accept to pay 10/20 times what it costed to you. 
> 
> Don't illude yourself: most people simply don't bother with all the
> cultured and subtle distinctions we are enjoing here lately about
> tangible and not tangible goods, etc..."
> 
> LOL, yeah you are right there (about the subtle distinctions part)! 
> 
> I'm not sure that refusing to acknowledge a hotly contested legislative
> monopoly immediately categorizes someone as immature though..?
> I'm sure there are a number of reasons that people infringe IP including
> the fact that some people simply do not acknowledge it as a valid
> notion.

It does not categorize you as immature but a blanket statement like
Marco repudiated was as he stated too much. I do think that not to
acknowledge IP as a valid concept is both stupid and criminal.  I think
with the exception of some really poor areas of the country our kids
have basically had it far to good.

We seem to think it is our right to have a TV, radio, cell phone,
computer, etc. And to have all of them at once.  I know a kid that has
over 60 gig of downloaded mp3s.  60 GIG!!!!!  Even without over pricing
this is a god awful lot of music.  Since his dad found out about it he
can only surf the internet when dad is watching.  I know he does it at
friends also but you should hear the screaming.
> 
> I have a sneaky suspicion the fact that over 40% of Americans have
> downloaded Mp3s (Pew Internet statistics 2000)(and are criminals by
> definition) could be at least partially attributed to the
> Individualistic nature of our societies in the 21st century.  
Could also be that this is true.  I actually don't think so.  Far too
many people still do not have computers and a lot more have no interest
in this.  Even if true they are still criminals.

I personally do not think pot should be illegal.  I do think copying 60
gig of music for free should be.

> 
> Either that or 100 million plus Americans are immature?
> And lets not forget about all of the cassette dubbing/floppy dosk
> swapping that went down in the 80's :o
> 
These are two different subjects.  I do happen to think that a large
portion of our society is immature.  Since a large portion are still
children this goes without saying.  Another large portion is senial and
that leaves the middle where 50 percent or better are still immature.

You can compare the downloading of mp3s to the copying we did in the
70's and 80's if you want.  It is partly true but it was just not
possible to do it on the scale it is being done today.

Johnnie




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