Re: Google and the South African Internet

Andre Coetzee <[email protected]> Tue, 15 Dec 2015 05:47:45 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.ioz
Organization Andre Coetzee
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:16:23 +0200
Paul Furber <[email protected]> wrote:
> - Just for a lark I would go to the other MyBroadBand thread where
> you post a couple of outright lies when defending yourself.
> Lie #1: You were never a cybersquatter. Except you did squat the
> mandela.co.za domain and Morgan caught you doing it:
> http://tinyurl.com/q9hpoez

you are one of the mybraodband.co.za anonymous cowards, thank you for
repeating some of your slander, here in public on this mailing list.

It helps people understand for themselves what the real truth is.

mandela.co.za domain was never owned by myself - I registered it for
someone else. But, never mind that.

You say that I am a liar. Lets all see if I am a liar or not::::

Without even saying mush I would simply go and look at the public whois:
http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=mandela&Enter=Enter
I would see, like any person would: 3e. creationdate           :
2001/12/27 23:49:28

So, a trademark was registered on the mandela surname ten years
later... (2011)

Which means that the surname: mandela.co.za was NOT a trademark in 2001

Therefore no cybersquatting can even be possible and also someone could
argue that the name "mandela" is a clan/family/surname and is not
patentable or registrable as a trademark...

One could argue that there are more than one person with the name
mandela. In fact and in truth ANYONE that registered the domain
mandela.co.za will NOT be a cybersquatter or doing anything wrong or
illegal, whether it be Mandla Mandela, Winnie Mandela etc etc etc etc.

So, please tell us, Paul - with all of your credibility on the line:

You say I Lied? 

In public on a public list?

Which domain did I (this Andre Coetzee or actually any of the Andre
Coetzee's) register and be a "cybersquatter?

I put it to you that: 

As you have slandered me here, in public, that  you are in fact the
same person that slandered me on mybraodband.co.za 

Please also respond in public on this list, so that we can be clear
that you are calling me a liar and that you have not provided the facts
to back that up, yet.

> Lie #2. "I was never banned by Glug democratically but by Oscar
> Pearson, this caused a split in the community and if you look at how
> a very important list or group like Glug have devolved in value over
> the past few years since I was banned, I have been vindicated
> anyway." False - it didn't cause a split. I was there. I remember.

Actually, the threads are all in the PUBLIC archive!  Anyone can read
them. Even those that were not on the Glug mailing list.

And, there was a split, the Software Freedom day of 2009 was manned by
"my" side of the split (there are actual photos..- not that the "facts"
worry you much or that you care about the truth much...

Next you will claim that I doctored the photographs? 

The truth is Pual Furber, that you can slander me, directly as you have
done here and so obviously that anyone can see it - except yourself?

But it still does not detract me from saying that we need better
privacy legislation.

We need to protect ourselves from people like you.

> And yeah, you were banned by the group. Oh, and GLUG is doing just
> fine by the way. When I look at those old names and think of what all
> those people are doing now and how successful they've been, it makes
> me happy.
> So tell us again: why were you arrested? And why should we believe
> you?
> (*) Wouldn't happen of course - mailing list rules and I would have to
> recuse myself anyway.
> 


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