Re: Abuse

Saul Stein <[email protected]> Fri, 8 Sep 2017 11:58:51 +0200 (SAST)
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.ioz
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi
There was some corridor talk about something similar to this at iWeek. 
The challenge is for it to be effective, everyone needs to subscribe and
then there is that little issue call law and the saying "innocent until
proven guilty"

When you blacklist people without trial, you start playing the role of
judge, jury and executioner...  its as great idea, but there are legal
issues...


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of ox
Sent: 07 September 2017 01:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IOZ] Abuse

Hi,

I know that ISPA exists, etc, etc. I also know that TelkomSA and many
others are not members.

As I do not attend Internet events, networking events, etc. I would like
to ask someone that does to please consider discussing the usefulness of
some sort of register / registry somewhere where ISP's or netizens could
"list" or add individuals and/or companies that ISP's terminate services
for - like a credit bureau for hosting?

I am not talking about some anonymous low value rubbish forum like my
broad band where anonymous faceless people could write any rubbish about
any person they like (or dislike) or a "hello john", but more like a XYZ
terminated services to ABC for Spam, or terminated services due to illegal
pornography, etc. - so that anyone can make a slightly better informed
decision before taking on a client.

I just terminated two hosting accounts and am now seeing that the same
people were terminated, by at least one other ISP for exactly the same
rubbish. If we would have been able to search an abuse database of sorts
and see that ABC is listed at XYZ as having been terminated, it would have
really helped us not to have abused others due to our "client's" recurring
abusive behavior...

And the same "clients" are now off to another SA company... rinse &
repeat...

So, a list like this would also help that we do not perpetuate and enable
the same abuse over and over....

Does anyone think that such database would be useful? or am I losing it?
(if I am losing it, simply ignore my post)

Andre 

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