Re: Re[2]: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

Hey everyone,

I think we can all agree that the IPv8 threads have run its course, and Jamie has received plenty of feedback regarding this proposal via the mailing list community. If anyone wishes to continue the conversation, I recommend reaching out to Jamie off list.

Kind regards,

Ryan Hamel
Co-Chair of the Moderation Committee

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From: Adam Fathauer via NANOG <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re[2]: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

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I worked at a Fortune 5 bank that implemented ipv6. We did it at our
edge, internally and even with business partners (SBA).

YOU might not be familiar with businesses that are not using it - that
doesn’t mean no one is.

Adam


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From "Shane Ronan via NANOG" <[email protected]>
To "North American Network Operators Group" <[email protected]>
Cc "Jamie Thain" <[email protected]>; "Shane Ronan" <[email protected]>
Date 5/4/2026 18:58:16
Subject Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

>You must not deal with very many corporations because I know many that have
>added v6 to their corporate networks. Think of many in the top 200
>companies in the US.
>
>Shane
>
>On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 6:28 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>  Kevin,
>>
>>  I can't fix ipv6 I'll leave that to people that understand the basics.
>>
>>  No one, and i mean no one in corp (that's not a super scalar) knows
>>  anything about ipv6 and no one and i mean no one cares.
>>
>>  They know it's on in there os and there's some mystery that some things
>>  will break if it's off.
>>
>>  Jamie
>>
>>  On Mon., May 4, 2026, 2:27 p.m. Kevin Tillery via NANOG, <
>>[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  > Jamie
>>  >
>>  > And ipv8 is no where on there radar. So fix ipv6.
>>  >
>>  > I appreciate your input.
>>  >
>>  > Kevin
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > On 4 May 2026 08:26:33 CEST, Jamie Thain via NANOG <
>>[email protected]>
>>  > wrote:
>>  > >Marco
>>  > >
>>  > >And ipv6 is no where on there radar. So fix ipv4.
>>  > >
>>  > >I appreciate your input.
>>  > >
>>  > >Jamie
>>  > >
>>  > >On Sun., May 3, 2026, 4:33 a.m. Marco Moock via NANOG, <
>>  > >[email protected]> wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > >> Am 03.05.26 um 00:30 schrieb Jamie Thain via NANOG:
>>  > >> >
>>  > >> >   * IPv6 wasn't a surgical fix for address exhaustion — it bundled
>>  the
>>  > >> >     address-space change with a full redesign of neighbor discovery,
>>  > >> >     autoconfiguration, header structure, and operational tooling.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> That wasn't the issue. The issue is that it takes some time to prepare
>>  > >> and do the implementation of another network protocol, regardless how
>>  it
>>  > >> is called or how it works in detail. No one cares about ARP, nor NDP.
>>  It
>>  > >> is there and works.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Corporate networks need address plan, firewall plans etc. and that
>>  needs
>>  > >> to be extended if any new protocol is going to be implemented.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> --
>>  > >> Gruß
>>  > >> Marco
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Junk-Mail bitte an [email protected]
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