Re: Indian IT was in trouble before Trump

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The rapid wave of smarter (there are disquieting reports of far too many du=
mb things they do) devices as well as of extremely powerful number crunchin=
g being applied to daily activities is not just another innovation where so=
mebody we know will be left behind.
I strongly suspect that the effects of these will be extremely disruptive, =
and the beneficiaries may not consider national loyalty as quite central to=
 their future interests. Thus, discussing Indian industry purely in the con=
text of its technological readiness is somewhat problematic. Rather, note t=
hat some successful organisations have already demonstrated their willingne=
ss to put business before any other interest, and this is a personal philos=
ophy of the founders, usually the founder's family and successors, given ou=
r recent history.
I don't think these organisations, if and when they succeed in the new disp=
ensations, will necessarily be considered IT companies, for all that their =
core money spinners will depend purely on using information technology. And=
, aside from their origins, we might not be able to identify them as Indian=
.=C2=A0
I'm reminded, for some odd reason, of the closing scene from Animal Farm, w=
here the animals look through the window at their liberators.=C2=A0


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  On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 at 12:43 p.m., Kiritkumar Lathia<[email protected]> w=
rote:   It seems to me that more problamatic is the tetonic shift which wil=
l come with 5G, IoT, robotics, ... as the article points out. Here the inve=
stments in India is poor by any standard as India plays the classic "wait a=
nd copy". The IP regime is tightening up as well so this cost is normally n=
ot met in legacy system maintenace which India shines. As legacy is replace=
d by cloud and (mobile) apps, have the Indian IT trained enough for this?

Even in "smart Cities implementation, many EU countries are "helping" out w=
ith their innovative products - I did not detect that much innovative India=
n solutions.

Thrump may be "last straw" but I think the main culprit is the tetonic tech=
nological shifts occuring now and the lack of Indian R&D direction.

Best=20
Kirit

On 3 February 2017 at 06:03, Arun Mehta <[email protected]> wrote:

http://economictimes. indiatimes.com/tech/ites/view- indian-tech-was-on-the=
-brink- even-before-donald-trumps- shove/articleshow/56945718.cms

At the risk of adding to the enormous amount of Trump-gazing going on, this=
 article suggests that his toughness on visas could merely be the last stra=
w on the backs of the major Indian IT companies. Do you agree?

warmly,
Arun Mehta

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The rapid wave of smarter (there are disquieting reports of far too many du=
mb things they do) devices as well as of extremely powerful number crunchin=
g being applied to daily activities is not just another innovation where so=
mebody we know will be left behind.<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_14=
86278307003"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1486278307886"=
>I strongly suspect that the effects of these will be extremely disruptive,=
 and the beneficiaries may not consider national loyalty as quite central t=
o their future interests. Thus, discussing Indian industry purely in the co=
ntext of its technological readiness is somewhat problematic. Rather, note =
that some successful organisations have already demonstrated their willingn=
ess to put business before any other interest, and this is a personal philo=
sophy of the founders, usually the founder's family and successors, given o=
ur recent history.</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1486278527499=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1486278528014">I don't th=
ink these organisations, if and when they succeed in the new dispensations,=
 will necessarily be considered IT companies, for all that their core money=
 spinners will depend purely on using information technology. And, aside fr=
om their origins, we might not be able to identify them as Indian.&nbsp;</d=
iv><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1486278789130"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1486278789130">I'm reminded, for some odd re=
ason, of the closing scene from Animal Farm, where the animals look through=
 the window at their liberators.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementT=
racker_1486278596323"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_14862=
78596323"><br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a href=3D"https://ov=
erview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=3DAndroid">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Andro=
id</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <header style=
=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Sat, 4 Feb 201=
7 at 12:43 p.m., Kiritkumar Lathia</div><div>&lt;[email protected]&gt; wro=
te:</div> </header> <div style=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 =
0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>It see=
ms to me that more problamatic is the tetonic shift which will come with 5G=
, IoT, robotics, ... as the article points out. Here the investments in Ind=
ia is poor by any standard as India plays the classic "wait and copy". The =
IP regime is tightening up as well so this cost is normally not met in lega=
cy system maintenace which India shines. As legacy is replaced by cloud and=
 (mobile) apps, have the Indian IT trained enough for this?<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Even in "smart Cities implementation, many=
 EU countries are "helping" out with their innovative products - I did not =
detect that much innovative Indian solutions.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div>Thrump may be "last straw" but I think the main cu=
lprit is the tetonic technological shifts occuring now and the lack of Indi=
an R&amp;D direction.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>Best <br c=
lear=3D"none"></div>Kirit<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3 February 2017 at 06:03=
, Arun Mehta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"javascript:ret=
urn">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"yQTDBase yqt2459065377" id=3D"yqt57959=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/view-indi=
an-tech-was-on-the-brink-even-before-donald-trumps-shove/articleshow/569457=
18.cms">http://economictimes. indiatimes.com/tech/ites/view- indian-tech-wa=
s-on-the-brink- even-before-donald-trumps- shove/articleshow/56945718.cms</=
a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>At the risk of adding to the =
enormous amount of Trump-gazing going on, this article suggests that his to=
ughness on visas could merely be the last straw on the backs of the major I=
ndian IT companies. Do you agree?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v>warmly,<br clear=3D"none"></div>Arun Mehta<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
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