Re: Down with Canonical - Boycott Ubuntu Spyware

Kathinka <[email protected]>
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Thomi objects to robust criticism of work:

>You wouldn't talk about
> someone's creation to their faces in this manner, so don't do it online.

He's wrong.  People who provide goods and services, and those who work
for an employer, have to face criticism where their work has not come
up to the standard expected.  Sometimes the criticism is richly
deserved e.g. restaurant where diner is informed that a dish is
gluten-free when it is not.  Sometimes it is 50-50 e.g. builder who
builds architect-designed house suitable for dry climate, not for
Auckland.  He could have warned the client, but it was the architect's
job to design for the conditions and the client's not to insist on a
design unsuitable for the conditions.

Artists - painters, actors, sculptors, musicians - face public
criticism including from people who have not paid (public art, music
on the radio) for their works.

Employers are constrained, by the possibility of legal action, in the
language they can use to employees - but unlike clients and consumers,
they can with due process get rid of an employee who does not please
them.

It's no good any of these other people saying, "But I was trying
really hard, I work long hours, don't speak harshly to me because that
hurts my feelings."

Well they can SAY it of course.

Kathinka.

On 28 January 2013 08:01, Thomi Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 28 January 2013 03:06, Chris Bannister <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Oh, so we are supposed to walk on egg shells because of this?
>> But, I do agree that the subject wording is a bit on the strong side,
>> although
>> perhaps understandable considering the expectations of FOSS and
>> GNU/Linux.
>>
>
> Yes. It's called "being a decent human being". You wouldn't talk about
> someone's creation to their faces in this manner, so don't do it online.
>
>>
>> It will be a sad day when issues can't be discussed openly and without
>> any fear of retribution. Some people actually run Linux because it is
>> not led by decisions made in some board room.
>>
>
> I welcome constructive discussion. I've already accepted an invitation to
> wax lyrical about the Ubuntu phone. When that happens, I'll answer any
> questions they have, as long as I'm able. I don't welcome ranty,
> poorly-researched attacks with no substantive value.
>
> What pisses me off in general is the fact that we get worse community press
> than Apple. We get worse community press than Microsoft. The icing on the
> cake is that the people writing these articles are Linux users - they're the
> people we're building this thing for. They're the people we work 12 hour
> days for. They're our bloody target audience, and some of them show their
> gratitude by flinging mud at the target of the day.
>
> Please, by all means - contribute to the project. Hundreds, if not thousands
> of people do already (I guess it depends on how you count it). File a bug,
> or do some translations, or do ISO testing, or write a juju charm, or write
> some documentation, or fix some bugs, or join the local Loco team, or host
> an installfest, or talk at your local high school... many of you do these
> things already - and I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your
> effort.
>
> If we want Linux to succeed on the desktop/phone/tablet/pc/car/whatever, we
> need to find a way to silence the trolls.
>
> --
> Thomi Richards
>
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