Re: you guys' work promotes my mental health

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"Freemen on the land also advocate schemes to avoid taxes"

Such as voting down the said taxes=2E Unless there is some other scheme in=
 place to tax people against their collective will=2E

"Je ne contracte pas" =E2=80=94 so whatever it was I didn't agree to it=2E=
 Somebody else's agreement=2E What about all those shrink wrap license agre=
ements on commercial software offerings? After you've paid for them and can=
 no longer get your money back by returning the item you paid for=2E

=E2=80=9CI stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Libertarianism when I r=
ealized it is but yet another neuroatypy=2E=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 There's got =
to be a good reason for enacting and enforcing some kind of "law" other tha=
n just a bunch of petty rules to punish people just for the sake of punishi=
ng them=2E

For example, a lot of people are too lazy to mow their own lawns, but then=
 they go to court with service of process and summons to appear to force th=
eir neighbors to mow their lawns to their expectations=2E In which case I s=
uppose a blade of grass a fraction of an inch too long that tickles your ba=
re foot is a prime example of "neuroatypy" unless it's actually against the=
 law to go barefoot on your own lawn in neighborhoods like that=2E

On March 28, 2025 9:59:34 AM PDT, Sylvain Saboua <sylvain@saboua=2Eme> wro=
te:
>Oh, I see ! You're from the =E2=80=9CCommon Law v Maritime Law,=E2=80=9D =
=E2=80=9CFree Man on the Land=E2=80=9D [1] bunch=2E I've enjoyed this consp=
iracy theory a lot, in France we had the =E2=80=9Cje ne contracte pas=E2=80=
=9D [2] stemming from it just last year=2E But French law stems from Napole=
onic Civil Code, i=2Ee=2E continental law, which is ; little to do with Com=
mon Law=2E=2E=2E Anyways=2E
>
>[1] https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement
>[2] https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/clip/UgkxWnBY9qjby4Uw71PwEZ3EvFhlKiWRqkB9
>
>In the end, I believe this all stems from the misplaced free association =
thought (or misplaced =E2=80=9Cright brain=E2=80=9D more or less)=2E As som=
ebody else says, =E2=80=9CI stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Liberta=
rianism when I realized it is but yet another neuroatypy=2E=E2=80=9D
>
>Enjoy
>
>On 2025-03-28 14:58, justina colmena ~biz wrote:
>> The shrinks got too litigious, and "mental health" is practiced as a
>> branch of "law" alongside "intellectual property" and other matters
>> that are either "imaginary" or "all in your head" =2E=2E=2E
>>=20
>> There are laws against "simulating legal process" over such imaginary
>> matters etc=2E
>> <https://law=2Ejustia=2Ecom/codes/alaska/title-11/chapter-56/article-4/=
section-11-56-620/>
>> but such laws are never enforced, because even without a Constitution
>> the law itself can't be illegal in a court of law, and even if it
>> were, the attorneys can't prosecute themselves or else they'd put
>> themselves out of business for their own practices=2E
>>=20
>> The "law" itself by definition being whatever "lawyers" keep
>> themselves in business practicing and billing for=2E Unless you think
>> you can be successful in court as yet another crackpot mentally ill
>> "pro se" petitioner with a flat tire or another speeding ticket or
>> traffic violation on the way to court you must answer, with paying off
>> all your parking tickets and getting your vehicle released from city
>> hall impound after court, but your own petitions are just going to be
>> professionally dismissed for failure to appear at any one of those
>> numerous perfunctory court hearings for filing a suit=2E Cops have
>> grappling hooks and shoot-out axle nets to physically disable and stop
>> your vehicle on the road now=2E That's why the real pro lawyers always
>> hail a cab or take Uber or Lyft to court because you can't even
>> consider driving or parking your own vehicle in a hostile red-light
>> district=2E
>>=20
>> On March 28, 2025 2:48:29 AM PDT, sylvain@saboua=2Eme wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 2025-03-28 07:01, justina colmena ~biz wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:51:35=E2=80=AFAM Pacific Daylight Time i=
zzy
>>> Meyer wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Curious why you chose to invalidate this person's experience that
>>> they
>>> made themselves vulnerable about=2E Sure- you have your views on
>>> things,
>>> and that's totally cool=2E But maybe try being a bit more forgiving of
>>> someone who, again, made themselves vulnerable next time?
>>>=20
>>> People serve process with mental health allegations that sticks
>>> worse than a
>>> felony record in court for the rest of a person's life, and they
>>> want others
>>> to be forgiving of them?
>>=20
>> Oh ! I think I get you=2E I had the impression that you were sympatheti=
c
>> to
>> antipsychiatry, especially given the related posts on your blog=2E I'm
>> still
>> not very sure but =2E=2E=2E I've never been charged for anything crimin=
al or
>> against
>> the law, you're making quite a broad generalization here=2E
>> When talking about mental illness and the aforementioned soothing I
>> get from
>> obsd and suckless, I was alluding to the relative cognitive overload
>> undeliberately enforced by other projects which seems mostly absent
>> from these
>> two =E2=80=93 as hinted at in the title of my page UNIX=2Ehtml @saboua=
=2Exyz
>>=20
>>> Mental health services, like those of astrologers or magicians,
>>> psychics,
>>> tarot card readers, palmists, have gained far too much of a sheen of
>>> legitimacy (or color of law, as it were) in court for service of
>>> process and
>>> summons to appear -- Say does a person really have an organic
>>> "mental illness"
>>> of known etiology? Or is it simply a case of simulated legal process
>>> with a
>>> catch-all diagnosis to make a person appear "formally mad" in a
>>> court of law
>>> for some other legal summons?
>>=20
>> That's right=2E A lot of diagnoses are abusive, esp=2E when considering
>> the prevalent
>> traumatic liminal state that pervades among our relatives within
>> society=2E But as
>> for me I attribute this to Big Pharma's lucrative motive, not legal
>> summons which
>> I've seen cases of while at the ward=2E
>>=20
>>> Absolutely no morality is inherent in the "law" just because it's
>>> the law=2E
>>=20
>> Precisely=2E Legal is not necessarily moral=2E
>>=20
>> Sylvain Saboua
>
>--=20
>Sylvain Saboua

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<html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">"Freemen on the land also advoca=
te schemes to avoid taxes"<br><br>Such as voting down the said taxes=2E Unl=
ess there is some other scheme in place to tax people against their collect=
ive will=2E<br><br>"Je ne contracte pas" =E2=80=94 so whatever it was I did=
n't agree to it=2E Somebody else's agreement=2E What about all those shrink=
 wrap license agreements on commercial software offerings? After you've pai=
d for them and can no longer get your money back by returning the item you =
paid for=2E<br><br>=E2=80=9CI stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Liber=
tarianism when I realized it is but yet another neuroatypy=2E=E2=80=9D =E2=
=80=94 There's got to be a good reason for enacting and enforcing some kind=
 of "law" other than just a bunch of petty rules to punish people just for =
the sake of punishing them=2E<br><br>For example, a lot of people are too l=
azy to mow their own lawns, but then they go to court with service of proce=
ss and summons to appear to force their neighbors to mow their lawns to the=
ir expectations=2E In which case I suppose a blade of grass a fraction of a=
n inch too long that tickles your bare foot is a prime example of "neuroaty=
py" unless it's actually against the law to go barefoot on your own lawn in=
 neighborhoods like that=2E</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"auto">On March 28, 2025 9:59:34 AM PDT, Sylvain Saboua &lt;sylvain@sab=
oua=2Eme&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-le=
ft: 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"k9mail"><div dir=3D"auto">Oh, I see ! You're from the =E2=80=
=9CCommon Law v Maritime Law,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CFree Man on the Land=E2=80=
=9D [1] bunch=2E I've enjoyed this conspiracy theory a lot, in France we ha=
d the =E2=80=9Cje ne contracte pas=E2=80=9D [2] stemming from it just last =
year=2E But French law stems from Napoleonic Civil Code, i=2Ee=2E continent=
al law, which is ; little to do with Common Law=2E=2E=2E Anyways=2E<br><br>=
[1] <a href=3D"https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_moveme=
nt">https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement</a><br>[=
2] <a href=3D"https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/clip/UgkxWnBY9qjby4Uw71PwEZ3EvFhl=
KiWRqkB9">https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/clip/UgkxWnBY9qjby4Uw71PwEZ3EvFhlKiWR=
qkB9</a><br><br>In the end, I believe this all stems from the misplaced fre=
e association thought (or misplaced =E2=80=9Cright brain=E2=80=9D more or l=
ess)=2E As somebody else says, =E2=80=9CI stopped nurturing any interest in=
 Ancap/Libertarianism when I realized it is but yet another neuroatypy=2E=
=E2=80=9D<br><br>Enjoy<br><br>On 2025-03-28 14:58, justina colmena ~biz wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex=
 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"a=
uto">The shrinks got too litigious, and "mental health" is practiced as a<b=
r>branch of "law" alongside "intellectual property" and other matters<br>th=
at are either "imaginary" or "all in your head" =2E=2E=2E<br><br>There are =
laws against "simulating legal process" over such imaginary<br>matters etc=
=2E<br>&lt;<a href=3D"https://law=2Ejustia=2Ecom/codes/alaska/title-11/chap=
ter-56/article-4/section-11-56-620/">https://law=2Ejustia=2Ecom/codes/alask=
a/title-11/chapter-56/article-4/section-11-56-620/</a>&gt;<br>but such laws=
 are never enforced, because even without a Constitution<br>the law itself =
can't be illegal in a court of law, and even if it<br>were, the attorneys c=
an't prosecute themselves or else they'd put<br>themselves out of business =
for their own practices=2E<br><br>The "law" itself by definition being what=
ever "lawyers" keep<br>themselves in business practicing and billing for=2E=
 Unless you think<br>you can be successful in court as yet another crackpot=
 mentally ill<br>"pro se" petitioner with a flat tire or another speeding t=
icket or<br>traffic violation on the way to court you must answer, with pay=
ing off<br>all your parking tickets and getting your vehicle released from =
city<br>hall impound after court, but your own petitions are just going to =
be<br>professionally dismissed for failure to appear at any one of those<br=
>numerous perfunctory court hearings for filing a suit=2E Cops have<br>grap=
pling hooks and shoot-out axle nets to physically disable and stop<br>your =
vehicle on the road now=2E That's why the real pro lawyers always<br>hail a=
 cab or take Uber or Lyft to court because you can't even<br>consider drivi=
ng or parking your own vehicle in a hostile red-light<br>district=2E<br><br=
>On March 28, 2025 2:48:29 AM PDT, sylvain@saboua=2Eme wrote:<br><br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; bor=
der-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"auto">On 2025-=
03-28 07:01, justina colmena ~biz wrote:<br><br>On Thursday, March 27, 2025=
 8:51:35=E2=80=AFAM Pacific Daylight Time izzy<br>Meyer wrote:<br><br>Curio=
us why you chose to invalidate this person's experience that<br>they<br>mad=
e themselves vulnerable about=2E Sure- you have your views on<br>things,<br=
>and that's totally cool=2E But maybe try being a bit more forgiving of<br>=
someone who, again, made themselves vulnerable next time?<br><br>People ser=
ve process with mental health allegations that sticks<br>worse than a<br>fe=
lony record in court for the rest of a person's life, and they<br>want othe=
rs<br>to be forgiving of them?<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
Oh ! I think I get you=2E I had the impression that you were sympathetic<br=
>to<br>antipsychiatry, especially given the related posts on your blog=2E I=
'm<br>still<br>not very sure but =2E=2E=2E I've never been charged for anyt=
hing criminal or<br>against<br>the law, you're making quite a broad general=
ization here=2E<br>When talking about mental illness and the aforementioned=
 soothing I<br>get from<br>obsd and suckless, I was alluding to the relativ=
e cognitive overload<br>undeliberately enforced by other projects which see=
ms mostly absent<br>from these<br>two =E2=80=93 as hinted at in the title o=
f my page UNIX=2Ehtml @saboua=2Exyz<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa=
8; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"auto">Mental health services, like those=
 of astrologers or magicians,<br>psychics,<br>tarot card readers, palmists,=
 have gained far too much of a sheen of<br>legitimacy (or color of law, as =
it were) in court for service of<br>process and<br>summons to appear -- Say=
 does a person really have an organic<br>"mental illness"<br>of known etiol=
ogy? Or is it simply a case of simulated legal process<br>with a<br>catch-a=
ll diagnosis to make a person appear "formally mad" in a<br>court of law<br=
>for some other legal summons?<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
That's right=2E A lot of diagnoses are abusive, esp=2E when considering<br>=
the prevalent<br>traumatic liminal state that pervades among our relatives =
within<br>society=2E But as<br>for me I attribute this to Big Pharma's lucr=
ative motive, not legal<br>summons which<br>I've seen cases of while at the=
 ward=2E<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0p=
t 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><div=
 dir=3D"auto">Absolutely no morality is inherent in the "law" just because =
it's<br>the law=2E<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br>Precisely=2E=
 Legal is not necessarily moral=2E<br><br>Sylvain Saboua<br></div></blockqu=
ote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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