Re: supported systems list

Nick Holland <[email protected]> wrote:

[...]
> > And i wonder why the 840AV was removed from the list of supported
> > machines, and even more what's not working there. Additionally, the
> > Quadra 800 and the AWS 80 are just the same hardware and it doesn't
> > matter for OpenBSD what software Apple shipped with them. So the
> > addition of the"WGS" part to mac68k.html doesn't make much sense to
> > me.
> 
> Apple was fond of slapping different labels on the same machine. 
> While TECHINCALLY there may be no reason to list them separately, when
> you are rummaging around at a hardware swap or local trash dump (or my
> basement), you don't necessarily have a cross-reference available
> (though my basement has full net access. 8).

I see, and you always have a printout of mac68k.html with you :)

> The 840AV machine's on-board NIC is non-functional.  A NuBus NIC on
> the expansion bus is non-functional (same card is running very nicely
> in my Q650).  I tend to think an OpenBSD computer without usable
> network support is pretty useless.  This is an issue for all the
> laptop Mac68k systems, too... I have trouble calling these anything
> nicer than "support challenged", though maybe I'm a little harsh. 
> (please refrain from telling me it *could* be done using the serial
> ports unless you do it and accomplish something that way)

I asked because Xavier just removed it from the list of supported
machines. It would make sense to list the 840AV in the partially
supported machines section then.

> The AV machines have some serious facination for me -- supposedly,
> they were able to capture full motion video, which is impressive for a
> 25MHz or 40MHz processor.  And considering the disk and network
> performance I've seen out of the supported mac68k systems, even
> assuming the video capture was done purely in HW, I can't imagine my
> Q650 just moving data around that fast, much less doing something with
> it, as well.

Yea, i read Apple built them with special DSPs for the video handling.
 
> > Last but not least, i'm curious how a Quadra 700 behaves with 3.5 (I
> > don't own a 700, i'm just curious).
> 
> We are curious how EVERYTHING works. 8)

And i try to find more mac68k hardware in this city, especially
something with a 68030 ...

> Nick.
> -- 
> http://www.holland-consulting.net
> 

Regards,
Martin