Re: Hnadwriting is on the wall for long-haul trucking
"David Walters via groups.io" <[email protected]> Mon, 03 Aug 2026 08:15:42 -0700
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--I0tDG7NijIanFmLTyTrv Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I should explain why it is more complex. First, taxis haul people around so= safety is important here. Secondly, navigating the very heavy traffic in u= rban areas requires the vast dedication of both Operators and AI. Driverles= s taxis all have Operators in control rooms overseeing and overriding so-ca= lled driverless vehicles. They are not truly autonomous as they do have thi= s override. Tesla's and other car companies for private vehicles do have su= ch control centers but not nearly as heavily staffed as Waymo and other dri= verless tax companies. The constant navigation/observation by humans is a m= ajor hindrance to the bottom line of these companies and why they are pushi= ng for less regulations...or opposing regulations that increase the human-t= o-driverless-vehicle ratio...with the use of AI instead of human operators. Trucking is actually much easier. At least for what we call in the U.S. "ov= er-the-road" long haul trucking. The scenarios, as they use in Europe, is f= or driverless trucks to go from inter-model yard (or large ports, airports,= and trucking terminals) to other large trucking terminals: basically strai= ght shots between these anchor points, not so much making deliveries inside= cities or suburban industrial/distribution sites. As of now the AI's and r= emote operators have a far more simpler job than urban taxis. ALL major tru= cking companies are looking into this, no exceptions. In addition AI/satellite/remote operator control of container ships are als= o being explored with only a small engineering staff onboard. All of the above represent a major assault on the transportation based work= ing class sector(s). David -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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Driverless taxis all have Operators in control rooms overseeing a= nd overriding so-called driverless vehicles. They are not truly autonomous = as they do have this override. Tesla's and other car companies for private = vehicles do have such control centers but not nearly as heavily staffed as = Waymo and other driverless tax companies. The constant navigation/observati= on by humans is a major hindrance to the bottom line of these companies and= why they are pushing for less regulations...or opposing regulations that i= ncrease the human-to-driverless-vehicle ratio...with the use of AI instead = of human operators.<br /><br />Trucking is actually much easier. At least f= or what we call in the U.S. "over-the-road" long haul trucking. The scenari= os, as they use in Europe, is for driverless trucks to go from inter-model = yard (or large ports, airports, and trucking terminals) to other large truc= king terminals: basically straight shots between these anchor points, not s= o much making deliveries inside cities or suburban industrial/distribution = sites. As of now the AI's and remote operators have a far more simpler job = than urban taxis. ALL major trucking companies are looking into this, no ex= ceptions. <br /><br />In addition AI/satellite/remote operator control= of container ships are also being explored with only a small engineering s= taff onboard. <br /><br />All of the above represent a major assault o= n the transportation based working class sector(s).</div> <div> </div> <div>David</div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> =20 You receive all messages sent to this group. =20 =20 <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42754">Vi= ew/Reply Online (#42754)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe:%20Re= %3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Hnadwriting%20is%20on%20the%20wall%20for%20long-haul= %20trucking">Reply to Group</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subje= ct=3DPrivate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Hnadwriting%20is%20on%20the%= 20wall%20for%20long-haul%20trucking">Reply to Sender</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/120572801/6024700">Mute= This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/post">New Topic</a> <br> <hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%">POSTING RULES & NOTES<br /> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br /> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br /> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.<br /> #4 Do not exceed five posts a day.<hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%"= > <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/editsub/6024700">Your Subscription<= /a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/x= yzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --I0tDG7NijIanFmLTyTrv--