Re: Profit and Value, was: Re(2): [ox-en] extrinsic motivation = coercion

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2009/5/7 marc fawzi <[email protected]>

> <<
> Its impossible to have an economic system at all (nor life) in
> thermodynamic
> equilibrium
> >>
>
> I think everyone is talking about demand supply equilibrium not
> thermodynamic equilibrium!!!


not everyone, as I see



>
>   Maybe it's easy to confuse if one is
> talking about thermoeconomics but you're stating the obvious here in
> saying there is NO EXCHANGE, NO MOVEMENT, NO LIFE when the economy is
> in a thermodynamic equilibrium, i.e. NO FLOW = NO LIFE, so I agree but
> believe everyone is talking about demand-supply


a stationary system (I use the word stable, but is  better stationary)


>
> But you can have demand-supply equilibrium for abundant goods/services
> if everyone who wants to have a given good/service can have it at cost
> (+ fixed profit margin so that there is not only sustainability but
> also possibility, assuming profit is spent exploring new inventions
> etc)



you only need profit if you want exploitation (in a stationary system),
that's "fist marxian theorem"

if you explore inventions, or if you accumulate capital, or if your
population grows, you are not in a stationary system (equilibrium in
economic language)





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