Re: [dinosaur] Parirau, new pterosaur from Late Cretaceous of New Zealand (free pdf)
Tyler Greenfield <[email protected]> Sat, 21 Dec 2019 20:28:12 -0600
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--000000000000f508a3059a41a97d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand that peer review is not required by the ICZN (although encouraged); I should have clarified that biorxiv is not a registered journal and fails Art. 8.5.3.2 like you stated. I see nomen nudum used to refer to all names that are not validly published, including but not limited to if they fail Art. 13. On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 8:17 PM David Marjanovic <[email protected]> wrote: > *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Dezember 2019 um 00:04 Uhr > *Von:* [email protected] > Since this is a preprint on a website made for hosting manuscripts and no= t > published in a peer-reviewed journal, I don=E2=80=99t think this constitu= tes a > valid naming. > > Peer review is > > *!!! NOT !!!* > > required for nomenclatural validity under the ICZN. (It *will* be under > the PhyloCode.) > > (Short digression: the notion that peer review is a basic component of > science is much younger than many people think. Not only did nobody revie= w > Linnaeus, but Nature wasn't peer-reviewed till the 1970s, many small > European journals weren't peer-reviewed into the 1990s, and edited books > often still aren't AFAIK. Unlike with a preprint server, the editors read > and reviewed the manuscripts, but didn't generally send them out to anyon= e > else. Einstein got very angry once when he found out an editor had sent h= is > manuscript to someone for review; he said he hadn't given the editor > permission to send it to anyone, especially the person who got it.) > > *However*, what kills the name is ICZN Art. 8.5.3.2 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__code.iczn.org_cri= teria-2Dof-2Dpublication_article-2D8-2Dwhat-2Dconstitutes-2Dpublished-2Dwor= k_-23art-2D8-2D5&d=3DDwMBaQ&c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI= &r=3DRy_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=3DNUdY46cgKKN_Ry0iFE_ys2= yFMdx2iASDLwmz4en9LG4&s=3Dki58tZklz6BifLiOXGn3LKZxKuwTkyOrpFrUFddDjOk&e=3D>= : > "The entry in the Official Register of Zoological Nomenclature [ =3D ZooB= ank] > must give an ISBN for the work or an ISSN for the journal containing the > work." bioR=CF=87iv doesn't have an ISSN, so game over until the manuscri= pt > comes out in a journal that has one and is either printed or registered i= n > ZooBank anew. Although not a nomen nudum (that would be specifically a na= me > that fails Art. 13 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__code.iczn.org_cha= pter-2D4-2Dcriteria-2Dof-2Davailability_article-2D13-2Dnames-2Dpublished-2D= after-2D1930_&d=3DDwMBaQ&c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r= =3DRy_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=3DNUdY46cgKKN_Ry0iFE_ys2yF= Mdx2iASDLwmz4en9LG4&s=3DgjwAPp32XpZBju5UFlFgwvs_7iX4JeZT78PpPoJKfSA&e=3D>, > which is not the case here), the name is unavailable at present. > --000000000000f508a3059a41a97d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">I understand that peer review is not required by the ICZN = (although encouraged); I should have clarified that biorxiv is not a regist= ered journal and fails Art. 8.5.3.2 like you stated. I see nomen nudum used= to refer to all names that are not validly published, including but not li= mited to if they fail Art. 13.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir= =3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 8:17 PM David Marjano= vic <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]<= /a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><= div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px"><div> <div name=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:10px 5px 5px 10px;padding:10px 0px 10px= 10px;border-left:2px solid rgb(195,217,229)"> <div style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px"><b>Gesendet:</b>=C2=A0Sonntag, 22. Dezem= ber 2019 um 00:04 Uhr<br> <b>Von:</b>=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla= nk">[email protected]</a></div> <div name=3D"quoted-content"> <div>Since this is a preprint on a website made for hosting manuscripts and= not published in a peer-reviewed journal, I don=E2=80=99t think this const= itutes a valid naming.</div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>Peer review is</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"margin-left:40px"><strong>!!! NOT !!!</strong></div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>required for nomenclatural validity under the ICZN. (It <strong>will</= strong> be under the PhyloCode.)</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>(Short digression: the notion that peer review is a basic component of= science is much younger than many people think. Not only did nobody review= Linnaeus, but Nature wasn't peer-reviewed till the 1970s, many small E= uropean journals weren't peer-reviewed into the 1990s, and edited books= often still aren't AFAIK. Unlike with a preprint server, the editors r= ead and reviewed the manuscripts, but didn't generally send them out to= anyone else. Einstein got very angry once when he found out an editor had = sent his manuscript to someone for review; he said he hadn't given the = editor permission to send it to anyone, especially the person who got it.)<= /div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div><strong>However</strong>, what kills the name is <a href=3D"https://ur= ldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__code.iczn.org_criteria-2Dof-2D= publication_article-2D8-2Dwhat-2Dconstitutes-2Dpublished-2Dwork_-23art-2D8-= 2D5&d=3DDwMBaQ&c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&= r=3DRy_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=3DNUdY46cgKKN_Ry0iFE_= ys2yFMdx2iASDLwmz4en9LG4&s=3Dki58tZklz6BifLiOXGn3LKZxKuwTkyOrpFrUFddDjO= k&e=3D" target=3D"_blank">ICZN Art. 8.5.3.2</a>: "The entry in the= Official Register of Zoological Nomenclature [ =3D ZooBank] must give an I= SBN for the work or an ISSN for the journal containing the work." bioR= =CF=87iv doesn't have an ISSN, so game over until the manuscript comes = out in a journal that has one and is either printed or registered in ZooBan= k anew. Although not a nomen nudum (that would be specifically a name that = fails <a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__cod= e.iczn.org_chapter-2D4-2Dcriteria-2Dof-2Davailability_article-2D13-2Dnames-= 2Dpublished-2Dafter-2D1930_&d=3DDwMBaQ&c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5B= OUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=3DRy_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&= ;m=3DNUdY46cgKKN_Ry0iFE_ys2yFMdx2iASDLwmz4en9LG4&s=3DgjwAPp32XpZBju5UFl= Fgwvs_7iX4JeZT78PpPoJKfSA&e=3D" target=3D"_blank">Art. 13</a>, which is= not the case here), the name is unavailable at present.</div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000f508a3059a41a97d--