Re: The two lo'es (was: essentials of a gadri system)

"And Rosta" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Organization Livagian Consulate
Message-ID <005e01c35ab3$39c58e40$fa350751@oemcomputer>
xod:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, John Cowan wrote:
>
> > Invent Yourself scripsit:
> >
> > > But is there a divergence between Jorge's lo'e (which means kind,
unique,
> > > and Mister) and the CLL's lo'e (which means "typical", understood
> > > precisely as the arithmetical mode: the most common type)?
> >
> > If CLL's "lo'e" were really the mode, or the median, or the mean, it
would
> > be a h'ass, and a h'idiot. But it isn't. Nor is it about (contra an
> > earlier posting) intrinsicality: there is no saying which properties are
> > intrinsic, just as there is no saying which are necessary and which
> > contingent.
> >
> > Rather, CLL lo'e is about *characteristic* properties. It is
characteristic
> > of lions to live in Africa, to have short intestines, and to eat
antelope.
>
> Ideal? Prototypical? Definitional? Can you give us an algorithm for
> deriving the "characteristic instance"? Otherwise, I don't know how to
> distinguish it from a stereotype but for the potentially offensive quality
> of the latter.

I don't see why an algorithm must be specified. CLL-lo'e is used to make
exceptionful generalizations, and the basis for their validity as
generalizations
is left to glorking. What's wrong with that?

--And.
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