Re: Re: request for deletion for other language- wikipedias

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Anthere wrote:

> Hello Tomos;
>
> This is precisely why I have been fighting for the
> past two months for editors not to quietly upload
> images copied on other wikipedia, and just put as
> "source, authorship and copyright status" : "from es:"
>
> "From es:" as a description page, is very little
> informative, and it does not guarantee the picture is
> gfdl. I strongly recommand that people at least put a
> direct link to the far away description page. If the
> description page is gone, that just means the picture
> is gone, and likely we should delete ours as well.

True, and I have said so on the Dutch Wikipedia to several 'cross-language
uploaders'. Taking my advise they now either add the original source as well,
or work with "from es:. Original image page text: (blablabla)."

Still, there is a problem. On en: there are _many_ pictures that have no
identification of source or authorship at all. The whole image description
page consists of one or two words saying what is on the image. What should
one do when uploading one of those to another Wikipedia?

In my opinion we should get much more strict on the texts of image
description pages. More precisely, any picture uploaded should contain:
* an indication of author or source
* an indication of the copyright status of the image, in particular whether
  it is GNU/FDL or not.

I'm saying "indication" here because I don't think we should be too strict
on it - "nineteenth century newspaper picture" should be enough, there is
no need to do work to find out which newspaper it was, nor to write each
and every time "thus PD because of date". But some kind of indication is
certainly necessary.

Problem of course are all those pictures already uploaded. Do we delete all
of them? Write "source unknown, probably not GNU/FDL"? Or yet something
else?

Andre Engels