Re: Consensus/ was Another Bush Crime against humanity and Gaia

"Globalcircle" <[email protected]> Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:08:59 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.technology.sustainable.ecobalance
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I believe Gandhi would say Satyagraha begins at home.

paul [email protected]
http://largocreekfarms.com
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On 1/29/2005 at 9:56 AM [email protected] wrote:

>Dear friends,
>
>How sad. We had begun with an (implicit) consensus on this list: that we
>all 
>needed to brainstorm ideas about how best to publicize, and help others 
>resist, the despicable corporate takeover of Iraqi agriculture.
>
>But we were quickly distracted into petulant nitpicking about the nature
>of 
>"consensus." Rather like the ancient story of Jason defeating an army by 
>casting a pebble amongst them, that, as it bounced off their armor, set
>them to 
>quarreling amongst themselves. If we are this easy to distract from a
>common 
>purpose, no wonder the lockstep neofascist Republikans are creating their
>brutal 
>world empire virtually unopposed.
>
>So let's get a grip, folks. It does not matter at all what "consensus" 
>is--it's just a word. What is important is to develop flexible,
>intelligent, 
>collaborative strategies, both long and short term, for practicing and
>promoting 
>worldwide Satyagraha against the Bush/Glomart juggernaut. None of us can
>know 
>ahead of time exactly what techniques will work best, nor what forms of 
>self-government are best adapted to cultures other than our own.
>
>OK--I'll step off my soapbox now. :-)
>
>In a message dated 1/29/2005 3:14:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>[email protected] writes:
>Just because you don't like my idea of consensus doesn't mean I don't
>> understand consensus. Let's be adults. You can define consensus any 
>> way you
>> want, and so can I.
>
>Well, I was going by the dictionary and a number of classes that I've 
>taken.
>
>I don't think it's very adult to make up definitions for 
>well-understood concepts.
>
>But one thing you're right about -- someone with a big enough mouth 
>will eventually get their way. I'm outta here
>
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