Re: Seeming hostility to conlang scripts?

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Do these scripts (pIqaD, Tengwar, Cirth, Sarati) get used, in any notable
amount, for any purposes that aren't at all related to their
respective fictional universes? In that one document (L2/16-329) that
showed proof of pIqaD being used, only 1 single example was given of pIqaD
being used for something non Star Trek related (and Bing's translator
doesn't even have that feature anymore lol). Like it's not Monopoly in
pIqaD, it's *Star Trek themed* Monopoly in pIqaD.

On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 4:17=E2=80=AFPM Julian Bradfield via Unicode <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2026-05-27, Vikki McDonough via Unicode <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Didn't the U.S. Copyright Office definitively state several years back
> that
> > writing systems *themselves* (as distinct from the fonts used to
> *display*
> > those writing systems) are not copyrightable (
>
> Unicode operates in other places than the U.S.A. - that's kind of the
> point of it!
>
> I personally doubt that the Tolkien Estate/Trust would prevail in most
> jurisdictions, but they have deep pockets (they got $24M from the
> films). So unless you have a rich friend who will give an unlimited
> and binding guarantee to bankroll Unicode in all the jurisdictions it
> might be sued in, it ain't going to happen without the Estate's consent.
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Do these scripts (pIqaD, Tengwar, Cirth, Sarati) get used,=
 in any notable amount, for any purposes that aren&#39;t at all related to =
their respective=C2=A0fictional universes? In that one document=C2=A0(L2/16=
-329) that showed proof of pIqaD being used, only 1 single example was give=
n of pIqaD being used for something non Star Trek=C2=A0related (and Bing&#3=
9;s translator doesn&#39;t even have that feature anymore lol). Like it&#39=
;s not Monopoly in pIqaD, it&#39;s *Star Trek themed* Monopoly in pIqaD.<br=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 4:17=E2=80=AFPM Julian Bradf=
ield via Unicode &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">unicode@co=
rp.unicode.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">On 2026-05-27, Vikki McDonough via Unicode &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Didn&#39;t the U.S. Copyright Office definitively state several years =
back that<br>
&gt; writing systems *themselves* (as distinct from the fonts used to *disp=
lay*<br>
&gt; those writing systems) are not copyrightable (<br>
<br>
Unicode operates in other places than the U.S.A. - that&#39;s kind of the<b=
r>
point of it!<br>
<br>
I personally doubt that the Tolkien Estate/Trust would prevail in most<br>
jurisdictions, but they have deep pockets (they got $24M from the<br>
films). So unless you have a rich friend who will give an unlimited<br>
and binding guarantee to bankroll Unicode in all the jurisdictions it<br>
might be sued in, it ain&#39;t going to happen without the Estate&#39;s con=
sent.<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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