Re: Betrayel
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slider wrote: > someone wrote: >> Why some folk can't experience any sort >> of a figure-ground reversal may be curious. >> Even taking shrooms in a controlled setting >> might not do the trick. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment > >### - but it does do the trick, every single time, I don't think it did and do think it doesn't. https://www.atpweb.org/jtparchive/trps-23-91-01-001.pdf << ... Pahnke arbitrarily determined that for a mystical experience to be considered complete for the purposes of the experiment, out of the maximum total possible score. "the total score and the score in each separate category must be at least 60 to 70 percent" According to this cut-off point, "Four of the ten psilocybin subjects reached the 60 to 70 percent level of completeness, ... Pahnke reported that "eight out of ten of the experimental subjects experienced at least seven out of the nine categories ... Out of the seven psilocybin subjects formally interviewed, only two had had Good Friday experiences that they reported to be completely positive without significant psychic struggles. The others all felt moments in which they feared they were either going crazy, dying. or were too weak for the ordeal they were experiencing. ... >> In another, perhaps, scientific, experiment. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4813425/ << Based on measures of mystical experience, 22 of the 36 volunteers had a complete mystical experience after psilocybin administration, ... >> >iow: it's obviously in everyone to be 'able' to do and to experience these >things, whether through drugs or discipline some facet of the psyche >becomes active/activated and we experience accordingly, I don't know if, everyone, is able to. >the real question thus being: why, if it's so universal, is it all so >generally suppressed/repressed! Maybe some people experience paranoia, they don't appreciate ego-loss, lack of control, etc. >### - nailing/pinning everything down is the rational world only; a tiny >island consisting of a single perceptual option that no one in their right >mind + given the choice, would ever choose over everything else ;) Intellect has its limits. - thanks! Cheers!