Re: [PHP4BETA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP4BETA] PHP 4.0.0 Release packaged

C>> I will use a 'real-world example here. I remember this post, because the 
C>> answer *shocked* me. I would expect such an answer from a 16 years old boy. 
C>> Not from a mature man. 
C>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php4beta&m=95754702605916&w=2 )

That's pretty valid answer. You should know when you bought Windows that
you'll have to pay for compilers for this OS. There's no "URL" for
downloading MSVC, since MSVC is a commerical product and "downloading" it
would be criminal offence (in most locations). PHP group has the right to
use whatever tools they find necessary, and since MSVC is de-facto
standard of Win32 platform, that's what is used for this platform. 

BTW, you can try your luck with cygwin tools and follow "configure"
procedures. Though I can't guarantee success on this. Maybe you'll even
contribute to PHP build process on the way.

There's nothing about Win32 users being sub-humans (you'd wonder if you'd
know what PHP developers are using). That's about some tools cost
money. You don't requre PHP group to provide you with hardware for PHP
development and deployment, why PHP group should support you on software
side? If you see that some free compiler is good enough on win32 so that
build process should support it, raise this on php-dev. But not demand to
supply you with free compiler just because you want it. You can ask
Microsoft for free compilers, not PHP guys.

C>> creating a huge black hole sun? PHP has lots of functions. Why do you add 
C>> them, when it seems like you don't want people to know about them? You are 

You really see it as developers "not wanting" to show anybody their
functions? Didn't it occure to you that writing good docs requires:

1. Good english. Very good. I know mine is not enough, for instance.
2. Lot's of time. Even more than coding. Much more, sometimes. You
can't just call some subroutine with needed arguments, you really have to
type. Sometimes to type a lot.
3. Presently, knowlegde of XML and PHP doc system. Requires time too.

C>> Where I live (Czech republic), a computer costs three monthly
C>> salaries. I just can't afford it. So I play with PHP on my office

But you don't require PHP group to buy one for you, right? You find
ways. Do the same in other aspects. You are not infant. People need not to
take care for you, neither they want.

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