Re: [UG-ADMINS] php[world] Call for Papers

Now this is more like it :)

And just it is clear, I have no problems with True North. I know Chris back
from when he wasnt a Grumpy programmer, but a Grumpy Canuck. I'll buy him a
few beers in Madrid in August and we'll have a laugh about all of this.
Last time we met each other I somehow ended up kissing an alligator
<http://www.thinkingphp.org/img/cakefest/big/24.jpg>.

I think your summit idea is wonderful. Perhaps start a new thread?




On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Stefan Koopmanschap <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mariano,
>
> I didn’t think you were out to upset me, honestly, but it came across to
> me as very negative. If I misread it, then my apologies, for sure.
>
> And surely I’m not saying community conferences don’t spend a lot of time
> on it. The people working on community conferences don’t need to earn their
> money with it though, something that the people organizing the commercial
> conferences do.
>
> But I get your point. And I think I’ve got an idea. Why don’t we
> (UG-ADMINS) schedule an online summit on organizing conferences. We’ll
> discuss ideas on how to improve conferences, on how to prevent schedule
> conflicts, on how to share speakers between conferences etc. We’ll take a
> hangout or another online meeting platform, find a time that most people
> can make it (due to timezones, I’m sure not everyone will be able to make
> it), and get something good out of this :)
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2014 at 21:43:32, Mariano Iglesias ([email protected])
> wrote:
>
> Ok this clearly is not taking the route I wanted it to take. Stefan: I
> went out of my way to clarify that I did not point out anyone in this
> thread was NOT helping out. Since I knew emails tend to be misread, I
> clarified it. Perhaps not clearly enough?
>
> I never intended to bash any other conferences. I read, and re-read my
> email three times. I did it again after your email and I cannot find how
> you understood it like that. Take this statement from you:
>
> "The fact that commercial conferences have a higher ticket price is
> simple: The people organizing those conferences actually spend a lot of
> their working hours, the hours they need to earn their living, organizing
> the conference."
>
> Am I to understand from this that you mean that non-commercial conferences
> DONT spend a lot of their working hours organizing the conference?
>
> No, right? Then why would you?
>
> Anyway I know you mean well and I definitely thank you for your words, and
> I will reflect on them all. But I believe this is not constructive if it
> left you "very upset and angry". Nothing further from my intentions.
>
> Perhaps we will meet each other some day and we'll share a beer/coffee and
> you'll realize and I am not going out of my way to upset you.
>
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