RE: Is it fair for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an employee?
[email protected] ("Ian Tynan") Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:28:06 -0800
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C7252D.DF758960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There has a been a lot of good advice in these emails. The 10+ years I have been in staffing is there is no security that a company can give. I am sure that the only way to make you feel secure about employment is to keep your skills updated so you can always be employable, always leave on good terms (even if you know you would NEVER want to work with that person again - what have you got to lose by doing that?). You never know what will happen tomorrow, but keeping your reputation intact is more important than anything else. Good people, know good people and the bad people soon slip away.=20 =20 In regards to pensions, 401k etc I have found that I like to keep my money invested in property so it's in my control. There are so many of the big corporations merging that things change (like we heard about Brad's grandfather and we all know what happened at Enron).=20 =20 It's a sad state of affairs when there is a lack of trust, the only loyalty you can really depend is yourself and being honest with yourself. I am currently working for a smaller staffing firm, because I chose to leave the larger recruiting firms for many of the reasons we have heard (excessive management and giving themselves raises, while the "costs" of hiring consultants then goes up - who get's hit? The consultant (expected to take lower pay - which is wrong), the recruiter (commission percentages are cut) and ultimately companies (to be charged higher to try and make sure the consultant and recruiter make fair, but this then causes companies to try and save money by implementing so called "HR Recruiting" who, most of the time in my experience, do not know UNIX from SYBASE and think Java is still coffee).=20 =20 Stay close to your friends, keep your word, ensure your skills are always getting updated and build a good relationship (constant contact) with 2-4 recruiters who deliver opportunities. This way you will always hear about jobs, keep employed and be paid what you deserve.=20 =20 I wish you all a Merry Christmas. =20 Kindest Regards,=20 =20 Ian Tynan Sr. IT Account Manager since 1995 Pinpoint Resource Group - IT Contract Divison (o) 310-356-8123 x111=20 (f) 310-868-0663 [email protected]=20 =20 <blocked::mailto:[email protected]> Check out my profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan =20 ________________________________ From: Mike [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:40 AM To: L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss Subject: RE: Is it fair for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an employee? =20 I used to advocate employees providing 2+ weeks notice. It seemed like the right thing to do, especially if the employee's skills were specialized. But lately I've observed employers cutting employees immediately upon receiving employees' notice. It seems to either be some "you can't quit on us. We're going to fire you first!" type deal, or in the case of one of my friends, it was for "security reasons" (apparently an employee that turns in notice may try to damage the IT systems before he/she leaves the company). Sometimes it's a more ambivalent, but still financially painful for the employee, "eh, just don't come back after today" from the employer. =20 Providing 2+ weeks notice is still generally good for employees to do so, as sometimes that's required for re-employment eligibility with the employer (or even with the recruiter, based on what Ian seems to be saying). =20 Myself, I plan on leaving one of my positions around the 5th of next year. I would like to give two weeks notice, but if my employer does what many of my friends' employers have been doing, that means I may be out of a job earlier than I would anticipate. Worse yet, my 401(k) wouldn't vest if I was cut by the company before the 1st. I would like to think that my employer would let me serve out my two weeks, but I sure wouldn't count on it or risk my 401(k) not vesting because of it. =20 -Mike =20 ________________________________ From: Ian Tynan [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:48 AM To: Terrence Brannon; L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss Subject: RE: Is it fair for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an employee? =20 I understand your point of view and it is unfair.=20 =20 However, it would not be a good ideal to tarnish YOUR reputation by not giving 2 weeks notice, it's better to not work for that client again.=20 =20 In time, clients will notice they are not getting good people because of they way they treat consultants and they will be forced to change.=20 =20 While people still go and work for these clients, the clients will continue this behavior.=20 =20 By a consultant not giving notice, then that would work against the consultant's reputation NOT the client.=20 =20 My advice would be to be selective and work for the "good" clients and keep a good reputation. If there at the time you have no option but to join this type of client then I would accept the fact that this may happen but still keep your professionalism and dignity in place by keeping to your word. Unfortunately we can not control the actions of others, but we can control our own actions.=20 =20 As a recruiter with a client behaves like that, I will not support them as I think that is unprofessional, also if someone wouldn't provide 2 weeks notice to me, I would not represent them again.=20 =20 Basically, chose carefully who you work with, stay professional and the people with the best reputations will find work again. It's the client who will miss out, not the consultant.=20 =20 Ian=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 I am always looking to build new relationships with Managers and IT consultants, so if you would like to help others, referrals are always appreciated and bonuses provided.=20 =20 Kindest Regards,=20 =20 Ian Tynan Sr. IT Account Manager since 1995 Pinpoint Resource Group - IT Contract Divison (o) 310-356-8123 x111=20 (f) 310-868-0663 [email protected]=20 =20 <blocked::mailto:[email protected]> Check out my profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan =20 ________________________________ From: Terrence Brannon [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:38 AM To: L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss Subject: Is it fair for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an employee? =20 I am watching people get cut without notice right at Christmas time and can only imagine the devestation this is causing them, emotionally and financially. Not to mention occupationally. Why is it fair for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice from an employee as well as expect a smooth transfer of knowledge, when all they do is throw people out the door with no warning?=20 It seems the best course of action for employees is to protest this inequity by leaving without notice and no knowledge transfer until employers get the point that they have no right wrecking people's lives without notice. In fact, one would think that the fair employment commission of some state would have some laws in place about the violent and abrupt termination of employees in good standing.=20 =20 <http://650944.sigclick.mailinfo.com/sigclick/0407020A/0C064E07/0B06004F /0A62223822.jpg> =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7252D.DF758960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"EXPIRES" CONTENT=3D"0"> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"EXPIRESABSOLUTE" CONTENT=3D"Tue, 01 Jun 1999 = 12:00:00 GMT"> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"PRAGMA" CONTENT=3D"NO-CACHE"> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"CACHE-CONTROL" CONTENT=3D"PRIVATE"> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"CACHE-CONTROL" CONTENT=3D"NO-CACHE"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name=3D"PersonName"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:black; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:black; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There has a been a lot of good = advice in these emails. The 10+ years I have been in staffing is there is no = security that a company can give. I am sure that the only way to make you feel = secure about employment is to keep your skills updated so you can always be employable, always leave on good terms (even if you know you would NEVER = want to work with that person again – what have you got to lose by = doing that?). You never know what will happen tomorrow, but keeping your = reputation intact is more important than anything else. Good people, know good = people and the bad people soon slip away. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In regards to pensions, 401k etc = I have found that I like to keep my money invested in property so it’s in = my control. There are so many of the big corporations merging that things = change (like we heard about Brad’s grandfather and we all know what = happened at Enron). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>It’s a sad state of affairs = when there is a lack of trust, the only loyalty you can really depend is = yourself and being honest with yourself. I am currently working for a smaller = staffing firm, because I chose to leave the larger recruiting firms for many of the = reasons we have heard (excessive management and giving themselves raises, while the = “costs” of hiring consultants then goes up – who get’s hit? The = consultant (expected to take lower pay – which is wrong), the recruiter = (commission percentages are cut) and ultimately companies (to be charged higher to = try and make sure the consultant and recruiter make fair, but this then causes companies to try and save money by implementing so called “HR = Recruiting” who, most of the time in my experience, do not know UNIX from SYBASE and = think Java is still coffee). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Stay close to your friends, keep = your word, ensure your skills are always getting updated and build a good relationship (constant contact) with 2-4 recruiters who deliver = opportunities. This way you will always hear about jobs, keep employed and be paid what = you deserve. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I wish you all a Merry = Christmas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Kindest Regards, = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: = url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" tabIndex=3D"0" w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times = New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Ian = Tynan</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times = New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'= >Sr. IT Account Manager since 1995<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times = New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'= >Pinpoint Resource Group - IT Contract = Divison<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(o) 310-356-8123 x111 = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(f) = 310-868-0663<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><a = href=3D"blocked::mailto:[email protected]" title=3D"blocked::mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected]">= </a><em><b><i><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Check out my = profile: <a href=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"blocked::http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan http://www.link= edin.com/in/iantynan New window will = open">http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan</a></span></font></i></b></em><= o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><b><i><span style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></= p> </div> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Mike [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December = 21, 2006 9:40 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Is it fair = for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an = employee?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I used to advocate employees = providing 2+ weeks notice. It seemed like the right thing to do, especially if the employee’s skills were specialized. But lately I’ve observed employers cutting employees <i><span = style=3D'font-style:italic'>immediately</span></i> upon receiving employees’ notice. It seems to either be some = “you can’t quit on us. We’re going to fire you first!” type = deal, or in the case of one of my friends, it was for “security = reasons” (apparently an employee that turns in notice may try to damage the IT = systems before he/she leaves the company). Sometimes it’s a more = ambivalent, but still financially painful for the employee, “eh, just don’t = come back after today” from the employer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Providing 2+ weeks notice is still generally good for employees to do so, as sometimes that’s = required for re-employment eligibility with the employer (or even with the recruiter, based on what = Ian seems to be saying).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Myself, I plan on leaving one of my positions around the 5<sup>th</sup> of next year. I would like to give = two weeks notice, but if my employer does what many of my friends’ = employers have been doing, that means I may be out of a job earlier than I would anticipate. Worse yet, my 401(k) wouldn’t vest if I was cut by the company before the 1<sup>st</sup>. I would like to think that my = employer would let me serve out my two weeks, but I sure wouldn’t count on it or = risk my 401(k) not vesting because of it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-<st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">Mike</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Ian = Tynan [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December = 21, 2006 10:48 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Terrence Brannon; L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Is it fair = for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an = employee?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I understand your point of view = and it is unfair. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>However, it would not be a good = ideal to tarnish YOUR reputation by not giving 2 weeks notice, it’s better = to not work for that client again. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In time, clients will notice they = are not getting good people because of they way they treat consultants and they = will be forced to change. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>While people still go and work = for these clients, the clients will continue this behavior. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>By a consultant not giving = notice, then that would work against the consultant’s reputation NOT the = client. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>My advice would be to be = selective and work for the “good” clients and keep a good reputation. If = there at the time you have no option but to join this type of client then I would = accept the fact that this may happen but still keep your professionalism and = dignity in place by keeping to your word. Unfortunately we can not control the = actions of others, but we can control our own actions. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>As a recruiter with a client = behaves like that, I will not support them as I think that is unprofessional, also if someone wouldn’t provide 2 weeks notice to me, I would not = represent them again. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Basically, chose carefully who = you work with, stay professional and the people with the best reputations will find = work again. It’s the client who will miss out, not the consultant. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Ian <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am always looking to build new relationships with Managers and IT consultants, so if you would like to = help others, referrals are always appreciated and bonuses provided. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Kindest Regards, = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName tabIndex=3D"0" style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: = url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Ian = Tynan</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times = New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'= >Sr. IT Account Manager since 1995<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times = New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'= >Pinpoint Resource Group - IT Contract = Divison<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(o) 310-356-8123 x111 = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(f) = 310-868-0663<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><a = href=3D"blocked::mailto:[email protected]" title=3D"blocked::mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected]">= </a><em><b><i><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Check out my = profile: <a href=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"blocked::http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan http://www.link= edin.com/in/iantynan New window will = open">http://www.linkedin.com/in/iantynan</a></span></font></i></b></em><= o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><b><i><span style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></= p> </div> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> = Terrence Brannon [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December = 21, 2006 2:38 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Is it fair for = an employer to expect 2 weeks notice of an = employee?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I am watching = people get cut without notice right at Christmas time and can only imagine the = devestation this is causing them, emotionally and financially. Not to mention occupationally.<br> <br> Why is it fair for an employer to expect 2 weeks notice from an employee = as well as expect a smooth transfer of knowledge, when all they do is throw = people out the door with no warning? <br> <br> It seems the best course of action for employees is to protest this = inequity by leaving without notice and no knowledge transfer until employers get the = point that they have no right wrecking people's lives without notice. In fact, = one would think that the fair employment commission of some state would have = some laws in place about the violent and abrupt termination of employees in = good standing. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br> <br> <!--4150554D785D--> <br><br><a = href=3D"http://650944.sigclick.mailinfo.com/sigclick/0407020A/0C064E07/0B= 06004F/0A62223822.jpg"><img = src=3D"http://650944.signature1.mailinfo.com/confirm2.6/0407020A/0C064E07= /0B06004F/0A62223822.jpg" border=3D"0" = nosend=3D"1"></a><!--4150554D785D//--> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7252D.DF758960--