Re: Tulu-Tigalari digits and numerals

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Also some other Tulu websites exhibit these digits, including in public
signages:

https://www.easytulu.com/p/tulu-lipi-alphabets.html

Also why this proposal for these numerals was still not considered?

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2025/25020-tulu-tigalari-numerals.pdf
(here the additional decimal digits, and numerals ten and one hundred, were
proposed in a contiguous range 113F0-113FB instead of using the Kannada and
Telugu blocks layout)


Le mar. 2 juin 2026 =C3=A0 11:30, Philippe Verdy <[email protected]> a =C3=
=A9crit :

> Is there a reason for not encoding these Tulu-Tigalari digits (0 to 9) an=
d
> numerals (10, 100) ?
>
> Suggested code points in the Tulu-Tigalari block (U+11380-113FF, allocate=
d
> in Unicode 16.0).
>
> (1)  Using the same layout as in the Kannada block (U+0C80-0CFF) or the
> Telugu block (0C00-0C7F) for their decimal digits:
>
> 113E6...113EF: TULU-TIGALARI DIGIT ZERO...NINE
>
> (I'm not sure if we can give them the "decimal digit" character property:
> digit zero is apparently a later addition, when traditional numerals used
> specific multipliers for tens and hundreds, however the existence of zero
> is documented and visible in existing modern usage, and the two other
> numerals may be used in legacy numerals for integers 1 to 999,999)
>
> (2) Using additional numerals with the same layout as in the Telugu block
> (0C00-0C7F) for its additional fraction digits:
>
> 113F8: TULU-TIGALARI NUMERAL TEN
> 113F9: TULU-TIGALARI NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED
>
> Some images are listed in Wikimedia Commons (including an example in
> modern usage for a wedding invitation in Tulu, printed in the Kannada and
> Tulu-Tigalari script), and a few alphabet charts including these numerals=
:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tulu-Tigalari_numerals
>
> One convincing point is that this appears in a *printed* document
> (intended for some sizable audience in the Tulu community and families),
> and that there may already existing fonts for them (even if they don't us=
e
> Unicode mappings), and not just a personal creation.
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Also some other Tulu websites exhibit these digits, includ=
ing in public signages:<div><br><div><a href=3D"https://www.easytulu.com/p/=
tulu-lipi-alphabets.html">https://www.easytulu.com/p/tulu-lipi-alphabets.ht=
ml</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>Also why this proposal for these nume=
rals was still not considered?</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://=
www.unicode.org/L2/L2025/25020-tulu-tigalari-numerals.pdf">https://www.unic=
ode.org/L2/L2025/25020-tulu-tigalari-numerals.pdf</a></div><div>(here the a=
dditional decimal digits, and numerals ten and one hundred, were proposed i=
n a contiguous range 113F0-113FB instead of using the Kannada and Telugu bl=
ocks layout)</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_=
quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0mar. 2 juin =
2026 =C3=A0=C2=A011:30, Philippe Verdy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om">[email protected]</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Is there a reason fo=
r not encoding these Tulu-Tigalari digits (0 to 9) and numerals (10, 100) ?=
</div><div><br></div><div>Suggested code points in the Tulu-Tigalari block =
(U+11380-113FF, allocated in Unicode 16.0).</div><div><br></div><div>(1)=C2=
=A0 Using the same layout as in the Kannada block (U+0C80-0CFF) or the Telu=
gu block (0C00-0C7F) for their decimal digits:</div><div><br></div><div>113=
E6...113EF: TULU-TIGALARI DIGIT ZERO...NINE</div><div><br></div><div>(I&#39=
;m not sure if we can give them the &quot;decimal digit&quot; character pro=
perty: digit zero is apparently a later addition, when traditional numerals=
 used specific multipliers for tens and hundreds, however the existence of =
zero is documented and visible in existing modern usage, and the two other =
numerals may be used in legacy numerals for integers 1 to 999,999)</div><di=
v><br></div><div>(2) Using additional numerals with the same layout as in t=
he Telugu block (0C00-0C7F) for its additional fraction digits:</div><div><=
br></div><div>113F8: TULU-TIGALARI NUMERAL TEN</div><div><div>113F9: TULU-T=
IGALARI NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED</div><div><br></div></div><div><div>Some images=
 are listed in Wikimedia Commons (including an example in modern usage for =
a wedding invitation in Tulu, printed in the Kannada and=C2=A0 Tulu-Tigalar=
i script), and a few alphabet charts including these numerals:</div><div><b=
r></div><a href=3D"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tulu-Tigalar=
i_numerals" target=3D"_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:T=
ulu-Tigalari_numerals</a><div><br></div><div>One convincing point is that t=
his appears in a *printed* document (intended for some sizable audience in =
the Tulu community and families), and that there may already existing fonts=
 for them (even if they don&#39;t use Unicode mappings), and not just a per=
sonal creation.</div><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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